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C00002 00002 ∂20-Oct-80 1312 Mailer at PARC-MAXC (Maxc1) Undeliverable message
C00004 00003 New people added:
C00007 00004 ∂20-Oct-80 1258 SYS
C00014 00005 Reception Notes
C00016 00006 New requests, as of 30 October
C00024 00007 RLL-1 (Computer) Distribution List
C00026 00008 ∂09-Nov-80 0602 Kaihara@SUMEX-AIM Re: RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board
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∂20-Oct-80 1312 Mailer at PARC-MAXC (Maxc1) Undeliverable message
Date: 20 OCT 1980 1303-PDT
From: Mailer at PARC-MAXC (Maxc1)
To: RDG@SU-AI
Subject: Undeliverable message
Undeliverable to BSMITH.PA.GV --
No such mailbox
∂21-Oct-80 1636 BRIAN at MIT-ML (Brian C. Smith) ∂20-Oct-80 1258 RDG RLL Bulletin Board
Date: 21 OCT 1980 1927-EDT
From: BRIAN at MIT-ML (Brian C. Smith)
Subject: ∂20-Oct-80 1258 RDG RLL Bulletin Board
To: RDG at SU-AI
CC: BRIAN at MIT-ML
I am happy to be on your mailing list. However, I would
like my address to be either BSMITH@BBNG or BRIAN@MIT-ML
(probably the first, I guess). Thanks -- Brian
Mailed to BSMITH@BBNG
Done.
New people added:
∂22 Oct 1980 1507-PDT SASTRY at USC-ISIF RLL
To: CSD⊗.GREINER at SU-SCORE
Hi,
I am a friend of Steve Klein at ISI and I wish to be placed on the mailing
list concerning RLL.
Thankyou.
Sastry@ISIF
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∂23 OCT 1980 0946-PDT KANDT at USC-ECL RLL
To: CSD.GREINER at SCORE
cc: Kandt
Russ,
I would like a copy of "The Details of RLL-1 " (HPP-80-23).
I would also like to be put on the mailing list. Thanks.
Kirk
P.S. My snail mail address is:
Kirk Kandt
Hughes Research Laboratories
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, California 90265
∂24-Oct-80 1452 RBECHTAL at BBNA RLL Bulletin Board
To: RDG at SAIL
Cc: RBechtal
Message-ID: <[BBNA]24-Oct-80 17:43:31.RBECHTAL>
Please add me to the RLL bulletin board mailing list. I have
a copy of HPP-80-9 which you gave me at the expert systems
workshop. I would appreciate a copy of HPP-80-23, "The Details
of RLL-1".
My (US) mailing address is
Bob Bechtel
Code 8242
Naval Ocean Systems Center
San Diego, CA 92152
In case you're keeping track, I learned of the bulletin board
through Keirsey at USC-ECL.
Thanks for your help.
Bob Bechtel
∂27-Oct-80 1305 novak at UTEXAS-11 Larry Hines
Date: 27 Oct 1980 at 1303-CST
From: novak at UTEXAS-11
Subject: Larry Hines
To: RDG at SU-AI
cc: novak
You can send mail to him as ATP.HINES at UTEXAS-20 .
-- Gordon
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Mailed to Novak 13:29 27-Oct
Thanks.
∂20-Oct-80 1258 SYS
Queued mail to KEIRSAY at USC-ECL -- ok
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16-Sep-80 11:23:37-PDT,357;000000000001
Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 16-Sep-80 1123-PDT
Date: 16 SEP 1980 1123-PDT
From: KEIRSEY at USC-ECL
Subject: RRL-1
To: csd.Greiner at SCORE
cc: keirsey
I am sending you a message so you can put me on your list of
interested people about RRL. I talked to you on Monday
with Kirk Kandt. Hope to here from you. Dave Keirsey.
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16-Sep-80 12:12:00-PDT,3768;000000000001
Mail-from: ARPANET site SU-AI rcvd at 16-Sep-80 1211-PDT
Date: 16 Sep 1980 1211-PDT
From: Russell Greiner <RDG at SU-AI>
Subject: HUGHES Interest in RLL
To: csd.greiner at SU-SCORE
Mailed to BUCHANAN@SUMEX 17:00 14-Sept
Sure. I can readily be in all afternoon. Russ
∂14-Sep-80 1449 Buchanan at SUMEX-AIM Re: Timing Constraints
Date: 14 Sep 1980 1448-PDT
From: Buchanan at SUMEX-AIM
Subject: Re: Timing Constraints
To: RDG at SU-AI
In response to your message sent 12 Sep 1980 1825-PDT
RUSS,
I'm unsure of th schedule myself. Are you free early-mid afternoon
tomorrow (Mon)?
bgb
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Mailed to Buchanan 6:25 12-Sept
Timing Constraints
Bruce -
What time (on Monday) should I block off for the people from Hughes?
Russ
Mailed to BUCHANAN@SUMEX, CSD.LENAT@SCORE 17:33 10-Sept
Bruce -
Kirk Kandt has contacted me several times about this visit; and I'd
be happy to spend some time with them. Just let me know when.
Russ
Date: 10 Sep 1980 1453-PDT
From: Buchanan
Subject: RLL interest
To: lenat
cc: greiner
Some people from Hughes Aircraft are visiting Monday and would like to
talk with one or both of you abt RLL. Do you have time? (this is
Bruce Bullock & his group, the more knowledgeable of the rsch groups
within Hughes).
bgb
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Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 10-Sep-80 0750-PDT
Date: 10 SEP 1980 0751-PDT
From: KANDT at USC-ECL
Subject: Re: Our visit
To: CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE
cc: KANDT
In response to your message sent 8 Sep 1980 1154-PDT
Russ -- Bruce was going to coordinate a number of activities
for us. You should probably schedule a time with him
and then get back to me. Thanks.
-- Kirk
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Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 8-Sep-80 1125-PDT
Date: 8 SEP 1980 1125-PDT
From: KANDT at USC-ECL
Subject: Our visit
To: CSD.Greiner at SCORE
Russell -- We'll be up there on Monday, September 15 -- Kirk
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∂04-Sep-80 1153 CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE Re: RLL
Date: 4 Sep 1980 1151-PDT
From: CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE
Subject: Re: RLL
To: KANDT at USC-ECL, RDG at SU-AI
cc: Bullock at USC-ECL
In-Reply-To: Your message of 2-Sep-80 2108-PDT
Yes, I'd be happy to meet with you then. The only potential problem is a
dentist appointment, I have scheduled for that morning. Will you be around
a day before, or after? (I do have the afternoon free, but don't know how
coherent I'll be then, if I end up novacained...)
Russ
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Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 4-Sep-80 1341-PDT
Date: 4 SEP 1980 1341-PDT
From: KANDT at USC-ECL
Subject: Re: RLL
To: CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE
cc: KANDT, Bullock
In response to your message sent 4 Sep 1980 1151-PDT
As it turns out we won't be able to make it up that week. We have
to write a quarterly report and then we'll be out of town for the
rest of the week. When we re-schedule our appointment with Bruce
I'll try to coordinate our visit with you. We are going to try to
be there on the week of the 15th-19th (probably just 1 day). Thanks
for your response.
Kirk
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∂02-Sep-80 2111 KANDT at USC-ECL RLL
Date: 2 SEP 1980 2108-PDT
From: KANDT at USC-ECL
Subject: RLL
To: CSD.Greiner at SCORE, RDG at SAIL
cc: Bullock, Kandt
Russell,
I saw your demo of RLL at the AAAI conference. At that time I
expressed an interest in using it for AI applications. Do you still
plan on releasing it for general use?
We will be at Stanford to see Bruce Buchanan on Tuesday,
September 9 (tentative). Would it be possible to talk to you at that
time about RLL?
Kirk Kandt
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Reception Notes
Date: 3 Sep 1980 1146-PDT
From: Cjohnson
Subject: RRL Oil-Spills code
To: Lenat
cc: Greiner, CJohnson
Doug,
It was great seeing you again at the Expert Systems Workshop.
Is there a possibility that the Spills code is in good enough
shape that I can play with it a little on SUMEX? This would be
the ideal time for me to try understanding the RLL system.
Best wishes
Carroll
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∂22-Oct-80 1254 SUE at SCI-ICS Rll memo
Date: 22 October 1980 12:05-PDT (Wednesday)
From: SUE at SCI-ICS
To: Russell Greiner <RDG at SU-AI>
Subject: Rll memo
Yes, received it yesterday. Tom, though, didn't have one as of
yesterday. Thanks!!
sue
New requests, as of 30 October
Send #9 & #23 to
Steve Klein
USC/Information Science Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90291
Professor W.J. Minkowycz
Dr. A. Sharma
University of Illinois at Chicago Circle
College of Engineering
Box 4348
Chicago, Illinois 90980
Larry Hines
Computer Science Department
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
Send #23 to
Tom Pressburger
System Control Incorporated
1801 Page Mill
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Susan Angebranndt
System Control Incorporated
1801 Page Mill
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Carroll Johnson
Chemistry Division
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Post Offic Box X
Oak Ridge, TN 37830
Gordon Novak, Jr.
Computer Science Department
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
Fumio Mizoguchi, Ph.D.
Department of Ind. Admin.
Tokyo University of Science
Noda, Chiba 278
Japan
Kirk Kandt
Hughes Research Labs
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, CA 90265
David Keairsey
Hughes Research Labs
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, CA 90265
Bob Bechtel
Code 8242
Naval Ocean Systems Center
San Diego, CA 92152
Reasons:
∂20 Oct 1980 at 1736-CDT novak at UTEXAS-11 RLL Paper
To: CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE
Thanks for the HPP-80-9 paper you sent. I would also like a copy
of the HPP-80-23 paper "Details of RLL-1" that you mentioned.
Many thanks,
Gordon
Gordon Novak Jr.
Computer Science Dept.
Univ. of Texas at Austin
Austin, TX 78712
∂22 OCT 1980 1718-PDT KEIRSEY at USC-ECL Details
To: CSD.GREINER at SCORE
Yes, I'm interested in the details of RLL-1. You will also get the
request by slow mail, which I sent before I got your Net mail.
∂9-Sep-80 12:10:08-PDT,854;000000000001
Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ISIB rcvd at 9-Sep-80 1210-PDT
Date: 9 Sep 1980 1207-PDT
From: Steve Klein <SKLEIN at USC-ISIB>
Subject: wall gremlins
To: CSD⊗.Greiner at SU-SCORE
Hi.
Sorry about the delay (etc.). I haven't heard from Tom since the airport...
must be treed by a bear/moose. We shall see next week. On other matters,
I am trying to convince people here that RLL would be very nice for our
multi-paragraph text generation project...currently the world is (proposed)
Systemic Grammars + Hearsay III + KLONE. Representing whatever cross-section/
subset of this in RLL would presumably have the added bonus of yielding self
descriptive powers (with necessary additions to lexicon, etc.). Seems a nice
"tool" for more general usage. Any comments at this totally hand-waving
stage? Don't work too hard...
Steve.
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9-Sep-80 12:20:02-PDT,00000000896;000000000001
Date: 9 Sep 1980 1220-PDT
From: CSD.GREINER
Subject: Re: wall gremlins
To: SKLEIN at USC-ISIB, CSD⊗.Greiner
In-Reply-To: Your message of 9-Sep-80 1207-PDT
"Wall gremlins"? Even for you, that's obscure. I got a card from Tom yesterday,
totally illigible, possibly unintelligible. I guess he's due back 13-Sept.
As to your task: "This seems like a job for RLL!" (What?, that's been
used before?) Until I get that blankety-blank memo finished, there's some
reading material generated in the Expert System Conference - Phil London, Lee
Erman and/or Bob Balzer could loan you a copy, for what it would be worth.
Do you have a time frame for this project? RLL should reach a releasable
(though stil too-flawed) state be, say, the end of this month. (Of course, if
you believe that, I'll remind you the memo was dated June 1980...)
How are things there, in general?
Russ
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9-Sep-80 13:03:57-PDT,1488;000000000001
Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ISIB rcvd at 9-Sep-80 1303-PDT
Date: 9 Sep 1980 1301-PDT
From: Steve Klein <SKLEIN at USC-ISIB>
In-Reply-To: Your message of 9-Sep-80 1220-PDT
To: CSD.GREINER at SU-SCORE
Whats wrong with obscurity for obscurity's sake? "Wall gremlins" has a nice
ring to it...(i.e., ask my subconscious). I moved from my parents to a house
in Sherman Oaks with Sandy about 3 months ago (don't know if I mentioned
this...) and I'm not sure I gave Tom the address...suppose I should check
my parents mail... Our project is still in the planning state so presumably
no problems unless your schedule slips to 4-6 months. I just have the
problem of convincing people... (also convincing others that it would be
reasonable for a VLSI design system...)
New topic. In general, how can things in LA be? There is something perverse
in the dichotomy between the rat-like aspects of a large city and the benefits
of said rat-warren (cultural, etc.). I'm tired of people running into my car.
Otherwise, things are tolerable. Sandy is working for the LAPD (administrative
aide) while attempting to decide on future edukashen. What fun. Do you ever
see Lou Scheffer at Stanford? (inserted since I saw him on Saturday). Ray
Feeney just bought a house in Pasadena for $340K (definite problems with
being divorced from the real world). Ho hum. Ever get the feeling that
reality is merely something in the way of more useful pursuits?
Steve.
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RLL-1 (Computer) Distribution List
official list in RLL.DIS[rdg,dbl]
[New changes:
add CSD.GARDNER@SCORE, STAN@SRI-KL, SASTRY@ISIF, KANDT@USC-ECL, RBECHTAL@BBNA
ATP.HINES@UTEXAS-20
RICK@RAND-AI,HENRY@RAND-AI,GORLIN@RAND-AI,KLAHR@RAND-AI,WESCOURT@RAND-AI
change BSMITH@PARC => BSMITH@BBNG
change KEIRSAY@USC-ECL => KEIRSEY@USC-ECL]
Others?
New students -
and:
BALZER@USC-ISI, STEFIK@PARC, [asked]
BULLOCK@USC-ECL,
CSD.BERLIN@SCORE, CHT@SAIL, ?
∂22-Oct-80 0851 Stan at SRI-KL RLL mailing list
Date: 22 Oct 1980 0849-PDT
From: Stan at SRI-KL
Subject: RLL mailing list
To: RDG at SU-AI
cc: stan
Yes, I'd like my name added to the list. Use 'Stan @ SRI-KL' as my
address. Who else is on the list? (This info would help me decide
if I know anyone who should be added.)
--Stan
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[Mailed msg #1 22-Oct]
∂30-Oct-80 2101 Rick at Rand-Unix
From: Rick at Rand-Unix
Date: 27 Oct 1980 at 1447-PST
To: RDG at Su-Ai (Russell Greiner)
cc: Rick at Rand-Unix, Jeanne at Rand-Unix
Subject:RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board
Please add: Rick@Rand-AI
Henry@Rand-AI
Gorlin@Rand-AI
Klahr@Rand-AI
Wescourt@Rand-AI
to the board.
Thanks,
Rick
RHR/jc
∂09-Nov-80 0602 Kaihara@SUMEX-AIM Re: RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board
Date: 9 Nov 1980 0555-PST
From: Kaihara@SUMEX-AIM
Subject: Re: RLL (Virtual) Bulletin Board
To: RDG@SU-AI
In response to your message sent 04 Nov 1980 1808-PST
dear dr.greiner;
The address is following;
Fumio Mizoguchi,Ph.D.
Dept. of Ind. Admini.
Tokyo University of Science
Noda 278, Chiba, Japan
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